Cyclo boilers.

Cyclo

I'd say that is a gimmick, " hey lets name our new boiler after a cycle Everyone knows a cycle is cheap to run and efficient So. they'll go for a cyclo electric boiler" , This time next year, we 'll be millionaires ,,,get the van Rodney

Except it's Cylo not not cyclo.
How does that fit in with your theory.

Thanks for that link gaffer.

How are these different from a thermal store?

Is anyone in UK selling off peak electricity for less than the price of gas?

Thermal store was a 1980's failure, It was nicknamed the ' sludgebucket' and became extinct very quickly, This one is heated from leccy and in my view a 'Sinclair cycle reborn with square wheels '

My prices with EDF,

Gas 6.784 p per kw hour plus £103 yearly standing charge.

Electricity 27.42 p per kw hour plus. £180 yearly standing charge.

Well there you go Gaffer, its not cheap to run so, why would anyone want one ??

tom,

I think I have come across posts from yourself, wayback, on screwfix forum, on thermal store woes.

Tom,

The Cyclo boiler, and others, are being developed as a possible alternative to heat pumps when gas boilers are no longer allowed on the march to net zero.
The storage heaters of yesterday were limited to an overnight charge. When it was very cold outside it was often the case that there was insufficient heat stored to keep the house warm towards the end of the day.
The Cyclo boiler takes the bulk of its energy demand at off peak prices with top ups, if required, at peak prices. For the majority of properties it’s a better proposition than a heat pump, and certainly much cheaper.

Time will tell I suppose but a heat pump takes some beating, My Son had a heat pump fitted in his house in Canada where the temp falls from an average -5 to -20 all winter long and it copes well, It uses about the same electric as a fridge because, that's what it is, Its a fridge in reverse, When its -20 outside, their house is 20 C inside which is brilliant, After -20 it struggles so they need back up in the form of wood burners, I'd say that is impressive

Phase change storage heaters is the way to go.

Solid to solid PCMs.

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video

In principle this can allow excess heat to be harvested in Summer, and used for warming us in Winter.

Interesting video Ena a fast talking salesman with all the data and techno schpiel , I'm sticking with my gas combi untill the World runs out of gas and then, I'll chop wood and burn that, All these new gismo's won't boil a pint of water as fast as putting it in a open fire,

I think that eventually, and likely not in my lifetime, we will see a fusion of technologies: semiconductor silicon controlling which of two crystalline states exists for solid to solid phase change material. This would give us, at the flick of a switch a device which will either absorb and store, or alternatively emit heat according to our preference.

(Phase change solid state memory devices have already been made.)

The thing is that which ever method is used for heating, and however most efficient it is, it still requires electricity to power it, so same as electric vehicles, those vehicles may not be producing any carbon emissions, same as the heat pumps in buildings are carbon emission free, but the gas powered generating stations, which produce the electricity are producing the carbon emissions instead.

What we need is some new technology, because the scientists have still not cracked the fusion power thing, and what about the energy that these UFO's use to travel around, I was going to use the word 'propulsion' but there are theories that UFO's aren't actually being 'propelled' by a force, they could be using an inter dimensional projection system, but whatever energy they use, it appears to use 'light' energy, which are 'protons' leaving the light source at 186,000 mph instantly.

What we need is another Einstein

Just been reading about the renewed Reichstag building in Berlin. (Architect: Norman Foster)

It incorporates 'inter-seasonal thermal energy storage' meaning that in periods of excess heat, it is cooled by heat pumping energy from the building, and sinking it into underground bodies of water. In the colder season, the heat pumps recover this heat and provide space heating to the building.

I knew that we should have kept our mine shafts. I bet you could store a lot of energy in the more than 50 miles of subterranean canal that lie between 'Bent and Worsley.

It is being thought about LINK

The deeper seams a Parsonage Colliery were difficult working on account of the intense geothermal heat encountered, according to Alan Davies.